Last time, we asked about which of our life skills have become outdated. It’s clear that after the zombie apocalypse, folks our age will be the only ones who can make change, calculate percentages without a calculator, operate a cash register, drive a manual transmission, and tell analog time…among other more arcane skills…
I’d hardly consider it a life skill, but I can pin curl my hair….it was also common to see women at the market or running errands wearing scarves over rollers in their hair.
-Ali
When the EMP takes us back to the stone age, Ali and the rest of us will still have fabulous hair.
The three R’s
Dozens of readers mentioned cursive, and several readers mentioned using protractors, and compasses. Several folks mentioned their math skills and how to confound the youngsters.
I encountered a cashier who frowned when I proffered cash at the register because it was too difficult to make change (I’ve seen other youngsters need their phone calculator..)
-Donnal
And readers like Eric W. still use their trusty slide rule.
I still have my slide rule from high school and college, and, once in a while when I’m looking for something else in the same desk drawer, I get it out and work a couple of multiplication and division problems. Then I try to remember what I was looking for in the first place….
Eric W.
Former Kelly Girl Jeanne can do 120 wpm in Gregg shorthand, and others mentioned diagramming sentences and the joy of getting an actual hand-written note. And in a different type of reading, many, many readers mentioned the ability to read a paper map or use a compass. If civilization collapses, at least folks our age will know where to go and how to get there.
The Needle Arts
And when the Apocalypse comes, our readers will be warm and well dressed, too. Readers like Susan, Pam and others can knit and crochet; Nancy can use a darning egg, Pam can turn a shirt collar, and tons of folks can hem a skirt or repair a sock. Younger folks will be out of luck.
Think I’m exaggerating?
I asked the sales clerk for natural fabric. She asked, “what is natural fabric?”
Jeanne P.
The clerk at Target didn’t know what a thimble was.
Kinla
REALLY OUTDATED SKILLS
My outdated skill is copying morse code. Back in the 80’s I was in Army Intelligence and was a morse code interceptor [05H] in Berlin Germany. Not much call for that skill today.
-Ray A.
Reader Annie says she can hook a rug, and C. Menard can parallel park a car (probably with a manual transmission) without back up cameras. Susanne D added a litany of outdated skills including this one – anyone else ever heard of this?
And going way back, playing in my school’s Tonette Band! (do schools still even have these?)
And the Winner is…
But the winner of the Really Outdated Skills Open Thread comes from Nancy, with a comment that every woman our age will recognize:
Putting on a pair of nylons with a girdle/garter belt.
That’s it for now – wasn’t it fun? We’ll keep the comments open for more of your outdated skills – because who knows when they’ll come in handy someday!
ORIGINAL COLUMN:
Many many years ago, I was a switchboard operator at my college. I now sigh in recognition when I see a switchboard scene in an old movie – because once, a few years ago, I was watching an old movie with a younger friend who asked me what the heck was going on.
Analog Time
I was thinking about other now useless or obsolete skills recently when my good friend, Susan, a linguistics professor for a local college, told me that she told her students to take a break and come back at a “quarter past two.”
They all came back at 2:25pm.
“They thought I meant a quarter, like 25 cents” she said, “they didn’t understand the analog concept of quarter past the hour.” Later my brother told me his son, ten years ago, put a clock in a credenza and none of this children (the youngest was 12 at the time) could tell the time. (My nephew quickly brought them all up to speed.)
Other outdated skills
The end of cursive? How to use a manual transmission? Sewing at home? (A colleague has mentioned that there’s a home sewing renaissance, partly due to Covid boredom and partly due to the ridiculous prices for clothing with cheap fabric and minimal style or substance.)
YOUR TURN
What ‘outdated skills and arts” do you have? What skills do you see on the way out? Share your thoughts and observations in the comments.
Virge Randall is Senior Planet’s Managing Editor. She is also a freelance culture reporter who seeks out hidden gems and unsung (or undersung) treasures for Straus Newspapers; she writes frequently on Old School New York City and performs at open mic readings throughout New York City. Send Open Thread suggestions to editor@seniorplanet.org.
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61 responses to “Open Thread Update: Morse Code, Cursive and other Outdated Skills”
In 1955 I was a tuxedoed Elevator Operator in a fancy Evanston Illinois apartment building. I could stop almost dead-level without an adjusting tweak.
My early jobs during my college years included keypunch operator and switchboard operator. My first post-college job was as a bank systems analyst working in Assembler code. Decades later, I taught HTML classes to wannabe web page designers. How things have changed!
Like many my age, I was born into a barely past WWII family. We didn’t call it “prepping” back then, but we learned to grow and preserve food for the winter; sew and mend our clothing; fix what breaks; always saving for the future. I still do these things because it was bred into me.
I’d hardly consider it a life skill, but I can pin curl my hair. Back in the day, there were special clips made for this purpose. I don’t know if they’re still made since the curls can also be formed using bobby pins, which can be found in stores and online today. I was a young teenager when I learned this skill. During that time, it was also common to see women at the market or running errands wearing scarves over rollers in their hair. Who remembers the movie/song “Wives and Lovers”?
I have a bag of pin curl clips. Hair is too short for them. But they have been repurposed-quite a few years ago-to hold bindings when I hand finish the edge of a quilt.
Hmmm. Let’s see. I can draw on real paper, add real pigments like acrylic and watercolor instead of using a computer, read an analogue clock, use a rotary phone, write in cursive, and write in full sentences instead of using initials for everything. I also know the difference between “less” and “fewer”. Does that count?
I love your “less and fewer” comment. I try to accept language changes but that one really bugs me.
I always keep a roll of wax paper in my kitchen. I use it to cover dishes in the microwave or hold food scraps while I’m chopping and preparing vegetables, but also to create a cover for bowls by crimping the paper all around the outside of the bowl. It makes a convenient cover when I don’t want to transfer something to a plastic container. I call it making a wax paper bonnet.
Also use parchment paper and freezer paper in the kitchen and they both double for quilting supplies, as well.
First job: directory assistance (information operator).
Using phone books & phone booths.
Making presentations using overhead projector & transparencies.
Touch typing on a manual typewriter & using carbon paper.
Using a compass, protractor, slide rule.
Using a fax machine.
Using card catalog at the library.
Using a Texaco roadmap for car trips.
And going way back, playing in my school’s Tonette Band! (do schools still even have these?)
I had a summer job, where the manual cash register came up with little numbers inset into the larger numbers that I then had to add in my head to figure out the sales tax on the transaction!
I can figure out a percentage tip in my head.
But, I do not plan to let cursive become outdated – my granddaughter will learn that, if only so that she can read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution in their original form! I know many private schools still teach cursive!
Those documents were written in a different type of cursive (called Spencerian) than we are taught in modern times. So you can learn cursive nowadays but still not be able to read cursive from the 1700’s. The best argument for using cursive is that it is much faster than printing.
I actually taught cursive, as a school occupational therapist, to children in a combined 3rd and 4th grade class where special education children were mixed with regular ed kids for certain subjects. The teachers I worked with were very supportive of this activity, and the kids loved it. By the end of the year, the goal was for each child to be able to write his/her own name in cursive. Everyone achieved the goal and the look of pride on their faces was phenomenal!
I can relate to almost all of the outdated skills. Being a senior citizen I still know how to and do count back change, balance my check books, write cursive, read maps, use dictionaries, encyclopedias, use a manual transmission (although I haven’t used one in years), type with 2 hands, prefer cooking in the oven or skillet over fancy instapot , etc. Iron clothes, mend clothes, read analog clocks, parallel park. Have old car with key ignition. I forget the young do not know these things.
This one sure sparked interest. My old school skills – I read and I can reason for myself, not depend on some trendsetter to tell me how to think; I can figure out what a percent off discounted item will cost without a calculator, and I can type with two hands on a keyboard (9 fingers, the left thumb just kind of there for the ride).
Agreed!
This question amuses me because it certainly is telling about me and how times have changed. I can still remember my NYC phone number that began with the first two letters of the designated area, and before area codes.
KI 2 (for Kilpatrick)-XXXX. I also use a key to start my car. But my practically useless skills include cursive writing, using a manual typewriter, and Pittman shorthand – that I used as a stenographer (and still try to use now and then.)
Yes, we had KI -7, for Kingsbridge. Later we had OL 2, for Olenville.
I learned to drive using stick shift car, did not know that cursive is no longer taught. How do people sign their names on checks but maybe they are no longer used either. In school we memorized multiplication tables and more so we can easily know if one item cost $3, what five will cost – without using a cell phone calculator. I believe everyone should know how to sew, iron – clothes get torn, hems need to be made – what do youngster do today.
All the cursive references are wonderful, and don’t forget the kinesthetic satisfaction of writing with a fountain pen.
I have no intention of giving up printed bound books for a screen. The trip down memory lane was quite pleasant.
Fountain pen use was mandatory in late elementary school. Torture for all the true lefties out there and the Mothers who had to get the ink out of our blouses.
I darn my socks, cook my meals, have a rotary phone, own a flip phone by choice and just keep it in my car for emergencies, I send hand written letters and notes, and use a fold out street guide to get me places around town. A young person I met said that they only use their smart phones for the GPS, I showed them my street guide and they looked at it like an ancient artifact! One young person said that is was “sick” finding it incredibly unique and had never hear of such a thing.
Loved this topic & the replies.
Thanks AARP for a nice nostalgic ride!
I can still take Pitman shorthand and use it frequently. It served me well for 45 years in various jobs where my accurate recording of decisions and action steps following meetings really came in handy.
my outdated skill is accounting
In the early 1980’s, I worked at a Custom Color Lab processing film by hand, printing photos from the negatives, and making duplicate slides for business presentations. I also did wedding photography on the side using two film SLR cameras; was always a nervous wreck until I saw my processed negatives and then I knew they were exposed properly and printable! I enjoyed reading all the aforementioned skills, many of which I have, too. Still drive a 1997 Ford truck with a standard transmission!
I speak fluent Pig Latin, drive a stick shift vehicle, write in cursive, fold cloth napkins for every dinner, and I know how to read a paper map.
Making change without a calculator or computer, using the count-up method, very useful in retail when the power goes out. But this is apparently not taught anymore.
Really! I’m still counting up in my brain while they are reading off what the register told them. Heaven help them when I give them a nickel and 2 Pennie’s with my $10 bill for an item that rung up $7.07. They stand there confused. Sometimes they get it when I say I’m getting rid of change and don’t want to use up your 93 cents. Sometimes not…..
My outdated skill is copying morse code. Back in the 80’s I was in Army Intelligence and was a morse code interceptor [05H] in Berlin Germany. Not much call for that skill today.
I could still dial a rotary phone and I could probably dial it in the dark if the power went out.
Playing the piano/keyboard is a lost talent. Churches have a difficult time finding anyone to play. Guess that’s why they’ve evolved into rock bands at church–which is what some of them seem like!
No keyboardists to be had. Our church music person plays through loudspeaker system an app of recorded hymns … when the old hymns are even used. They have no phrasing as a pianist would do, but only slower or faster. Hymnals sit idle while we must listen to the untalented “perform”. Are there any “fire and brimstone” preachers anymore? I guess my answer to what is obsolete is the old way of worship.
I still have my slide rule from high school and college, and, once in a while when I’m looking for something else in the same desk drawer, I get it out and work a couple of multiplication and division problems. Then I try to remember what I was looking for in the first place. I also have my father’s HP-35 calculator, from about 1972, which helped make slide rules obsolete, and, as an “early adopter” made him a “rock star” at his company.
I wish I learned the slide rule. My dad used one ( born 1919 me 1955) I laughed at the part where you got side tracked and had to remember what you were there for
I recently bought a new car with an automatic transmission after many years of driving a stick. My old car was 18 years when the catalytic converter was stolen. I decided it wasn’t worth repairing. I chose to switch to an automatic because it was just easier to share driving with others. However, I still miss my stick as that is my preferred driving method.
Sewing, crocheting, knitting, sending physical letters and cards(more personal)
It’s a treat any more to receive a handwritten note or card–makes you feel special for sure! I love to crochet. Have made several really nice baby blankets and prayer shawls. Not really trying to make money on them but even selling for $8-$10 at a yard sale, no one even looks at them. People just don’t care about that stuff any longer. I just make stuff and have it here and there throughout my house. Yes, it looks old fashioned but if I like it, that’s all that matters.
Rug hooking – I learned through an apprenticeship at the Greenfield Village Museum.
Using an analog tape recording machine-the main format for motion pictures for 50 years – now everything’s digital.
Long division – still know it!
I have seen so much change and or out dated. Military technology from the 70’s and 80’s a lot of hands on to get things to operate. Now flip of a switch and set a couple of knobs boom your done.
Cooking is another thing has changed leaning over a hot stove to cook the family meal. Now it’s toss in the oven, or microwave. I have seen the transition from how the old ma bell phone was the thing to being pushed aside and cell phones have taken over. This just tad of what I haven’t seen.
Using a dictionary.
Balancing a checkbook.
Putting on a pair of nylons with a girdle/garter belt.
Macrame.
Darning using darning egg.
Long division.
Punctuating properly.
You’re right. Younger people today don’t even know what punctuation means. I’m retired from banking, and NO ONE balances a checkbook any longer. I used to deal with people all the time complaining about being charged overdraft fees, but you can’t spend money that you don’t have. I always used to tell them that banks make mistakes too, so they need to keep up with their exact balance for that reason and to instantly be aware of account fraud to protect themselves.
I love it !
I love cursive. It may become a secret language if not taught anymore. I was a Kelly Girl, with Gregg shorthand at 120 wpm and electric typewriter speed at 80 wpm.
Shopping at Nordstrom Rack, I asked the sales clerk for natural fabric. She asked, “what is natural fabric?”
I make satin pillow cases by hand, and bought my sewing kit at Sears Roebuck.
I love old films showing history of telephones from switchboards to landlines to phone booths. IBM Selectric? YES, forever!
I loved shorthand–one of the most fun classes I took in high school. Even back then though, years ago, it was pretty much obsolete.
I loved my red IBM selectric! Typed all my college papers and made extra money typing papers, resumes. I also used the dictaphone, teletype, huge 10 key calculater with a moving carriage, and a manual typewriter and sewing machine. Clerk at Target didn’t know what a thimble was. Expert Thomas Guide Maps (California) interpreter before GPS and an 8 track tape in my car! Good times…
Hanging wash outside; darning socks; turning a shirt collar; hemming pants/skirts; embroidery; making homemade applesauce; soft soldering; vegetable gardening; canning; baking bread and I still do drive stick!
Love hanging wash outside! Slipping into sheets that have air and sun dried is heaven.
Opening salutations in a handwritten letter
Bus tokens.
I still have rotary phones that work well, but can only be used to take calls, as
there are no buttons to push for “press 1”, etc! I also still use cash, write checks,
write cursive letters, and do not do any of the current online “chats”. I am
perfectly happy with the “old ways”!
My outdated skill is that I can parallel park a car without back up cameras.
I like this subject! A few things came to mind…reading a map, using a compass for directions, typing on a manual typewriter, writing snail mail, using a real dictionary or thesaurus, diagramming sentences, Spelling Bees, taking dictation with Gregg Shorthand, paying with cash and giving coins to help with the total amount due (and confusing the cashier!)
I had forgotten about diagramming sentences. I always loved that! Of course, English was one of my favorite subjects. I’m weird like that! Thanks for jogging my memory!
Agreed. It’s my Superpower along with reading an analog clock.!!
And I bet foreign powers teach it.
I would like to urge senior citizens to get active in politics.whether it is with respect to a city counsel. A state legislature or the Federal government the wisdom of seniors can be useful in promoting our democracy
I don’t know if it’s an outdated skill, but I type (with both hands) on my computer and my cell phone. I learned to type on a manual and then an electric typewriter in Central Commercial High School. It was a school for secretaries here in NYC. I learned Pittman shorthand there, which I have completely forgotten because I haven’t used it for years.
The shorthand skill would really help me now because I take notes for my articles (I’m a journalist) and at various meetings.
what is an “open thread” discussion?
An open thread is where readers can share their thoughts, questions, or comments about an article or topic without a specific structure.
Oh,please…I drive a 2014 Honda Accord, stick and Honda dealers keep calling. Do I want to sell? Still a demand and surefire antitheft.
I am laughing. I’ve read that cars with manual transmissions are considered “theft proof” because so few people know how to drive them. Cursive writing? Coming back. During its “decline,” I asked the person who handled getting passports what young people did because a passport application requires a signature — not block printed. So cursive is coming back. (It also, apparently, aids brain development). Home sewing? Ditto. Home cooking…well, it might help us become healthy again!
Yes, I remember reading an extensive article about cursive writing and brain development – fascinating findings. I love writing letters longhand to my closest friends.
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