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Beauty and Wisdom: Talking to Photographer Robbie Kaye

One day in 2009, Photojournalist Robbie Kaye walked into The Cut, a beauty parlor in Los Angeles, planning to shoot photos for a whimsical and funny book about older ladies getting their hair done. But something about the patrons grabbed Kaye’s eye – and her heart. “I saw so much more,” she says. “I felt I needed to portray their dignity.”

Kaye wound up spending several years taking pictures of older women during their regular appointments at beauty parlors in big cities and small towns across the country.

Beauty and Wisdom is the stunning result; a collection of images portraying women in their 70s, 80s and 90s during their weekly beauty parlor visits. Kaye, 53, captures the story of this fading American ritual, expressing her wish “to change the perception of how we look at beauty, and that it’s not exclusively for youth.”

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We spoke with Kaye via Skype from her California home to learn more.

 

Why do some women have this weekly beauty parlor ritual?

There’s some vanity, obviously. But it’s also a kind of necessity for these women, because they’re getting hairdos that they could never reproduce by themselves. Some of these women have not done their own hair – or even washed their own hair – since they were 18 or 19, because that’s when they started going to the salon.

I asked one lady, Vera, who I interviewed in Texas, if she ever missed a hair appointment. She said, “No.” I asked, “What would be a reason that you did miss a hair appointment?” And she answered in a very Southern accent, “I’d be dead.”  And then she added: “Even then, my hair stylist Kathy would come to my house and do my hair.” Vera scheduled her hair appointments around her husband’s cancer treatments.  She made sure she wouldn’t miss one.

Why aren’t newer generations continuing to do this?

I think it’s going away because we can do our own hair for the most part. Now we consider getting our hair done to be a luxury, whereas before it seemed like a necessity for some women. It was on their To Do list, just like buying groceries, and their families were supportive of that.

There’s still that sacred connection between hair stylist and client. And for these ladies, there’s still a connection with all the other women going once a week. It’s a community.  They ask each other, How’s your spouse? How are your children? Your grandchildren?

When I was in Alabama, there were five women in this home salon, and the conversation was: “What do you think of the new pastor?” “What are you cooking for the homecoming?” One woman brought vegetables and fruit. One of them was sweeping while the other one folded towels. It’s such a community. It was, and still is.

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Were classic beauty parlors like this hard to find?

I think they’re few and far between. One of the last shoots I did was in Toluca Lake, California, and that was definitely the epitome. All the women knew each other. I mean, if they needed something, they’d all pray together. You could just tell. They felt really comfortable going there because they didn’t feel like they outcasts. It was really wonderful.

There’s a salon in Santa Monica called Mary Ellen’s where they have the line of dryer chairs still with ashtrays – and the burn marks! And they have tush marks from where the women sat. You feel like you’re in the 1950s when you’re there, and Mary Ellen herself is in her 70s and still doing hair.

You share on your website about meeting Mrs. Guste, age 88, who lost every piece of jewelry when her house in New Orleans was looted after Hurricane Katrina. She said to you, “Everything is borrowed and when it goes away, it’s time to give it back.”  What a wonderful attitude.  What other insights did these ladies share with you?

There was a woman, Ellen, in New Orleans, and she was talking about how we need more pats on the back. She calls herself the world’s cheerleader and encourages us to say to one another, “You did good.” I thought that was great. I really loved her energy.

So many of the women had wonderful things to say about what’s important in their lives. They all talked about the same thing – about accepting and loving what is.

These women showed so much courage and they really have a “take me as I am” attitude.

When I asked them, “What message would you want to tell the younger generation,” they said, “You are perfect the way you are.” That’s it.

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What message do you hope to communicate through this series?

I wanted to offer an alternative way to look at aging. And the beauty parlor happened to be a great place to do it.

I believe that the media has had a lot to do with how we look at what beauty is and continues to. My daydream is to have billboards of older women, you know? Because I think it’s a matter of familiarity. If we start introducing that, I really think there can be a collective change and we can take the ugly out of what we perceive as old. It could give many women, and men as well, the relief that aging isn’t something to dread – that it’s actually something to look forward to.

Carey

 

What plans are there for Beauty and Wisdom?

There’s going to be a documentary coming out (click here to view the trailer created by Christina Neferis). And I just booked a show at the Griffin Museum in Boston for 2014.  I’m in the final stages of editing a book called “Beauty and Wisdom” with the photographs and 18 essays that I collected from women all over the country on the subject of aging and beauty.

Thank you for sharing these amazing women, their stories and yourself.

Click here to see more Beauty and Wisdom photographs.

Robbie Kaye’s show at the Griffin Museum in Boston runs March 20 – May 11.

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18 comments
  • Annamay
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    What a facinating topic — original indeed! I never regularly kept beauty parlor appts. and so this is a marvelous peek into another world — a world I believe definitely deserves to be looked into, so thank you!

  • Helene Moore
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    I’m 82, and I loved this article. We older gals have learned a little wisdom along the way.
    I loved this article, Linda, thanks, it’s always so nice to hear good things these days.
    Keep up your good work.

  • Carla
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    As a child I went with my mom to watch her get her hair done. Now that she’s gone, I’m reminded how important it was for her to have this weekly ritual. Thanks for the great article, Linda!

  • jsmith
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    I read somewhere not long ago that the reason American women began to regularly go to the beauty parlor was because so many of their men were away at war in Europe where women were more chic and sophisticated, and the American women felt it was a good idea to be up to date and stylish too. So they had hair “do’s” and adopted movie star makeup, etc.

    Another special facet of these women is that they could “do it all.” They knew many skills that are no longer generally known. Many young women today are proud of the fact that they “don’t cook”. The women now in their golden years did it all, with panache. I’d like to see a book about that, too. The homemaker was a multi-skilled, competent worker.

    • Linda Abbit
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      Hi Jsmith,

      I haven’t heard this explanation about the change in American women’s beauty routines — interesting!

      I agree about homemakers being “super women.” I often think about how much they were able to get done, without all of the time-saving devices we now have. Their chores must have taken so much longer to complete.

    • Robbie Kaye
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      Thank you jsmith!
      This is an interesting concept and it makes sense, another point of view is that these women acted as silent partners. They were managers of households, some worked, and they handled family issue and events. The beauty parlor was one place they could go to engage in self care and connection with their hairstylist and fellow salon goers. I so agree with you, these women did it all with great panache that never lessened with age. I hope the essays and photos will convey some of that panache and the vitality of this generation. I thank them for opening the doors and leading the way for so many, including me.

    • Linda Abbit
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      Hi Noraleigh,

      I am happy to spread the word about Beauty and Wisdom. I like your description, “a bygone era of beauty culture.” Thanks for your comment.

    • Robbie Kaye
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      Thank you Noraleigh! Just finishing up on edits on the book. Feel free to email mail me and I will let you know when the book is published. Robbie

  • Martie McNabb
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    This is wonderful! Want to encourage Robbie to connect with 2 organizations that would love her work.. APH association of personal historians & Death Cafe! Thanks for sharing this beauty:) Martie

  • Robbie Kaye
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    Thank you so much for sharing my work and spreading the word about age and beauty. We are all in this together, creating a collective change for women, for men, and for the inevitable process of life… which happens to be aging, a privilege to some. Shine on!!

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