Aging Out of Place in Jomtien, Thailand

In Aging Out of Place, we’ll be talking to seniors who’ve said no to aging in place and yes to digging up roots and replanting themselves someplace cheaper, warmer or easier. Or all three.

 

For years Sheldon Penner, 65, knew that he would return to live permanently in Thailand, his favorite vacation spot, but he thought that retirement was at least two years away. Instead, reality bumped the move to April, 2014.

“My computer consulting business had been going downhill, and I had to make a choice–stay in the San Diego area and dip into my savings or retire early and move to Thailand where the cost of living is so much lower.”

Physically pulling up roots wasn’t too difficult. As a single man sharing a rental apartment, Sheldon was unencumbered by family responsibilities or real estate. But giving up his social connections and cultural interests was challenging. “One of the hardest things about leaving San Diego was walking away from a very vibrant improvisational group that I had labored for several years to become a part of. I was finally being accepted into it, and I was becoming good at Improv.”

Affordability, though, pointed to Thailand and Pattaya, a lively tourist town about 100 miles from Bangkok on the Gulf of Thailand. Pattaya is known as much for it’s nightlife as its pristine beaches, both of which attract international tourists and Thai vacationers. Although Sheldon had visited Pattaya before, living there, he quickly discovered, was more like being a perpetual tourist than a resident.

Jomtien, a nearby beach town, offered a more residential environment. It’s a popular second-home site for Bangkok residents and a full-time home for retired expats from all over the world. So after a month in Pattaya, Sheldon moved to Jomtien. “The place I had in Pattaya felt like a hotel room,” he says. “Here, my studio feels like a real apartment.”

Eventually, as he becomes more adept at the Thai language, Sheldon may move further away from the expat community, but for now he finds being in a largely English-speaking community easy and supportive.

His financial well-being is turning out to be even better than he had anticipated. Before making the move, Sheldon made a chart of expected expenses, and he’s found that in several instances, such as rent, he overestimated his costs.

Although his social security is less than it would have been had he postponed his retirement a couple of years, the shortfall hasn’t been a problem. His social security and a small annuity more than cover his expenses. “I love that I can live comfortably on a small income,” he says.

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What do you like best about living in Jomtien?

Jomtien is such an international community. I love being able to mix with people from all over the world. Russians, Swedes, Americans, Brits… I have friends from all of those places. It’s wonderful. The Thai people are very friendly, outgoing, and welcoming as well.

What is the worst thing about living there?

It’s hot! And sticky! April, May and June are the hottest times of the year, and the heat can be brutal. It’s in the high 80’s with very high humidity. I do have air conditioning, and there’s a swimming pool, which helps. Also, since I live in a beach community, I can wear a tank top and shorts all the time. I couldn’t do that in Bangkok.

Was it difficult moving to Thailand alone and not speaking Thai?

I looked up a few people who I had met on previous trips, but mainly I relied on the gregariousness of the people I met when I got here. Vacationers – and that’s who I mostly met in Pattaya – are always outgoing and eager to share their experiences with others, so it’s very easy to socialize with them.

Many people, especially people who are in business and have expat customers, speak at least some English. I have enrolled in a language school and I am attempting to learn the language, reading it as well as speaking it.

What surprised you about living in Jomtien?

I thought I would have to give up some things I enjoy, notably theater. There’s no theater scene here, but I discovered a group of expat actors, the Pattaya Players. It’s a little community theater group that performs at various resorts and restaurants. I hadn’t been an actor for many years, but I auditioned for the one-acts and will be in some of them. I’m thinking of starting a little improv group with the Pattaya Players.

I also thought I’d have to leave behind classical music, which is a major interest of mine. I discovered I was wrong about that, too. There’s a place called Eelswamp on a big estate away from the beach area of Pattaya. The owner invites musicians from around the world to come and perform at a small music conservatory on the estate. I’ve go there and listened to wonderful chamber music.

What about health care? How does that work for you?

I haven’t settled on a solution. Many plans, such as those at the Bangkok-Pattaya Hospital, which is a chain of hospitals similar to Kaiser in the U.S., will not cover people over 65. Several Thai insurance brokers are pitching various types of senior coverage to me. One plan was about $220 a month, which is more than I want to spend.

I become eligible for Medicare next week, but I would have to fly back to the U.S. to use it.

Medical tourism is big here, and there are excellent medical centers. The cost for an operation, for instance, is much less than a similar hospital in the U.S. charges. But that is still expensive for me.

Do you plan to go back to the US?

I’ll go back for a month in September, and then I plan to go back for annual visits.

What does aging with attitude mean to you?

Inside I’m the same guy I was at 20 but more experienced and, I hope, a little smarter. I want to do the things I want to do, like pursuing my interest in theater. I hope I will always have something that drives me, that keeps me busy and ambitious.

The Basics

  • Cost of housing: Inexpensive. While tourist spots like Pattaya can be pricey, places just beyond the city are quite reasonable. Sheldon’s studio apartment in a high rise condo with a swimming pool and several amenities, including air conditioning and cable TV, is $300 a month. Public transportation is quite good and there are several different types of taxis available, from private ones to pick-up-like vans with benches for several passengers, so you don’t have to own a car, Sheldon says.
  • Crime scene: Few worries Sheldon says,”I feel safe walking the streets and the little alleys  at night. I hear a little more about cons and scams rather than violent crimes.”
  • Expat community: Thriving Jomtien is very much an expat center.
  • Climate: Hot and hotter December, January, and February are quite pleasant. It heats up in spring and summer and can be very humid with some respite only at night when temperatures cool slightly.
  • Taxes and discounts Click here for info on taxable income for US residents of Thailand.
  • Civil rights Thailand is under martial law since the government was taken over by a military junta in May 2014. The NCPO (National Council for Peace and Order) can set up checkpoints and search for weapons on anyone that arouses suspicion. And they now control the media. The nationwide curfew has been lifted, but could be reinstated at any time. Americans are cautioned to avoid demonstrations and large gatherings for now.
  • Where to stay If you want to check out Jomtien, Sheldon recommends that the Silver Sand Villa, which is very inexpensive. Reviews on Trip Advisor are split between longtime fans who’ve returned year after year and others whose complaints range from rude staff to dirty rooms. Take your chances.

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Featured photo: pictures-thailand.com

13 comments
  • Roger Faulmann
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    I am 79 and will be moving from Florida, USA to enjoy my final journey.
    I had lived in Roi-et for nearly 5 years and had visited Thailand every
    summer for 10 years before that. America is not for me any longer.
    The political atmosphere is so hateful and the present administration
    is destroying the country of my birth.

    All that I look for is in Thailand and Jomtien.

    • brian
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      Safer than most places in the world, like everywhere use your common sense and you are perfectly safe, and I speak from experience, I have never had any trouble, and most of the ex-pats would laugh at your comments about murder, assaults and drugging.

  • Rosco
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    Greetings. I’m very interested in retiring in Jomtein, which gives beach access, but away from the intense tourism of Pattaya. Is it possible for Westerner to buy a condo there with little money down? Know if we can import used motorcyle, to Thailand? Does Thailand immigration insist of minimum $2,000 USD income for retirement visa?

    Many thanks,
    Rosco

  • John za
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    You have to suspend your western attitudes if you go to Pattaya Thailand.”Its up to you” if you chose a companion for a night , a week or a year.The long term companionship option is not available in the west . This is as close to a relationship many older men are likely to experience . I find the uncomplicated women from Issan to be a good antidote to western loneliness. Its really a symbiotic relationship , don’t knock it until you have tried it.

  • Jared
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    You retired in Pattaya of all places?? I don’t know how many “vacationers” there are compared to sex tourists. It’s a human trafficking mecca.

    • Dic Heaad
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      Vegas come to mind ? Any Big city has it’s Adult side. However it is done with fun and not so shady in Thailand. Mixed couples frequent the shows. Many what you would call deviant Transvestite shows in the USA are just common entertainment in THAILAND and not laughed at as farcical but as entertaining.

      Grow up. The Priest that molested you is long gone.

    • Brian
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      Human trafficking mecca ! Where do you get your info ?
      Most of the bar girls etc in Pattaya are there because it is easier and more profitable than working in the fields, they go back to their villages periodically, and send money back to their families. I lived in one of these villages for a time and many girls from there worked in bars in Pattaya and were under no duress to do so, they visited with their families for a while and then returned to make more money.

  • Jordan
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    Very informative and interesting. I gotta start figuring out where I’m gonna grow old. I hope you publish some more articles about more places, like Indonesia!!

  • john
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    Sheldon what interest u about the people other than them being friendly. What cultural events like dance musical movies of interest there.

  • john
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    interested on the best time to travel there
    transportation hours from new york to Thailand and a nice resort to stay at for two weeks and all inclusive meals and what would be the cost. this would be one senior and one younger adult.what was your expenses. had a good day

  • easy reader
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    Thailand seems to be a nice city to visit. Especially the housing cost. It would certainly be ideal to have an apartment that rents for $300.00 monthly with all the bells and whistles. I admire Sheldon’s ability to uproot himself and move across the world.

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